{"id":839,"date":"2012-08-29T19:55:03","date_gmt":"2012-08-29T19:55:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/?p=839"},"modified":"2013-07-09T22:39:54","modified_gmt":"2013-07-09T22:39:54","slug":"deprecating-creative-commons-nc-may-not-be-a-good-idea","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2012\/08\/29\/deprecating-creative-commons-nc-may-not-be-a-good-idea\/","title":{"rendered":"Deprecating Creative Commons -NC may not be a good idea."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There are serious calls to <a href=\"http:\/\/freeculture.org\/blog\/2012\/08\/27\/stop-the-inclusion-of-proprietary-licenses-in-creative-commons-4-0\/\">remove the -NC and -ND license options from Creative Commons 4.0.<\/a> The reasons are solid in their domain (software, science and education) and well thought out, but I suspect they&#8217;re still badly wrong and will hinder the idea of sharing culture outside that domain. Culture is not (quite) software.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of -NC and I do think the world would be better off without it in the long run, but you can&#8217;t just declare it so in the short run. My thesis is that there is a strong demand for an -NC option, by-nc-sa accurately describes how Internet culture actually works and that without -NC, people will share significantly less in general than they would with it. Either the -NC licenses will linger without maintenance, or stuff that would have been released -NC will just be left all rights reserved.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve had occasion to explain to people how <a href=\"http:\/\/freedomdefined.org\/\">proper free licenses<\/a> work and why Wikipedia uses them. You can reliably explode their heads by explaining just what &#8220;free content&#8221; means. For them, by-nc-nd is radical openness. There&#8217;s a <i>lot<\/i> of room out in the big world to spread the very notion of shareability and letting go of control.<\/p>\n<p>For an encyclopedia, and education in general, <a href=\"http:\/\/freedomdefined.org\/Licenses\/NC\">you actually want to allow all the stuff -NC forbids<\/a>. For other fields, you may actually not. People also have a strong resistance to allowing <i>someone else<\/i> to make money from their work when they don&#8217;t. (For whatever reason.)<\/p>\n<p>Quite a lot of photographers happily -NC their images but want to be able to sell them. I submit that having their images -NC is better for the world than having them all rights reserved. (That being so very concerned about \u00a35 a year from Getty Images is frankly delusional when you&#8217;ve spent thousands of quid and hundreds of hours getting there doesn&#8217;t change this.)<\/p>\n<p>Bloggers don&#8217;t necessarily want to put everything under a CC-by-sa licence. Ask the ones who&#8217;ve had the Guardian reproduce their stuff in Trolling Is Free without asking, notice or preserving the licence (but with their name and a lifted photo). This blog isn&#8217;t under any CC licence. Even Richard Stallman doesn&#8217;t put everything he writes under a free licence.<\/p>\n<p>I noticed a while ago (though I can&#8217;t find where I said so <b>Update:<\/b> <a href=\"http:\/\/rocknerd.co.uk\/2008\/08\/09\/just-spell-my-name-right\/#comment-84\">here<\/a>) that Internet folk culture &mdash; Tumblrs, fan fiction, LiveJournal icons, that sort of thing &mdash; tends to an ethos of the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>can reuse each other&#8217;s stuff;\n<\/li>\n<li>give credit;\n<\/li>\n<li>not doing it for money.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Note that that just happens to add up to by-nc-sa. So that licence is a good fit for the categories in people&#8217;s heads. And it doesn&#8217;t matter that -nc is a <a href=\"http:\/\/wiki.lesswrong.com\/wiki\/Magical_categories\">magical category<\/a>, which sounds simple in English but turns out to be fractally complicated when you look closely, nor that the ethos of &#8220;noncommerciality&#8221; is a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.quickmeme.com\/First-World-Problems\/\">First World<\/a> luxury that, applied to science, software or educational materials, results in <a href=\"http:\/\/freedomdefined.org\/Licenses\/NC\">reifying various privileges<\/a> at the expense of doing the thing you thought you were actually doing.<\/p>\n<p>(The other reason for noncommerciality is that culture as it&#8217;s actually practiced these days is a string of copyright violations, and not taking money increases the chances of being allowed to keep doing it. And with much Internet folk art, tracing the copyright is just <a href=\"http:\/\/4chan.org\/\">stupidly unfeasible<\/a>. Copyright doesn&#8217;t encourage culture, it blocks it by claiming ownership of the building blocks of thought.)<\/p>\n<p>I suspect this is a subclass of &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20110514124552\/http:\/\/diveintomark.org\/archives\/2006\/06\/02\/when-the-bough-breaks\">nobody gives a shit<\/a> about <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gnu.org\/philosophy\/free-sw.html\">freedom 0<\/a> until the lack of it bites them in the arse personally.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I think the correct course of action for us is:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Maintain Wikimedia as a firm bastion of proper free content, without any -NC or -ND.\n<\/li>\n<li>Continue to encourage sharing in the wider culture, using -NC where suitable.\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I could, of course, be wrong in practice.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are serious calls to remove the -NC and -ND license options from Creative Commons 4.0. The reasons are solid in their domain (software, science and education) and well thought out, but I suspect they&#8217;re still badly wrong and will hinder the idea of sharing culture outside that domain. Culture is not (quite) software. I&#8217;m &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2012\/08\/29\/deprecating-creative-commons-nc-may-not-be-a-good-idea\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Deprecating Creative Commons -NC may not be a good idea.&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-839","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wiki"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4FmVR-dx","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/839","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=839"}],"version-history":[{"count":39,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/839\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1108,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/839\/revisions\/1108"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=839"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=839"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=839"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}