{"id":226,"date":"2009-07-17T18:19:35","date_gmt":"2009-07-17T18:19:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/?p=226"},"modified":"2009-07-17T20:58:05","modified_gmt":"2009-07-17T20:58:05","slug":"npg-talks-are-in-progress-what-would-you-like-to-see-from-them","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2009\/07\/17\/npg-talks-are-in-progress-what-would-you-like-to-see-from-them\/","title":{"rendered":"NPG-WMF talks are in progress. What would you like to see from them?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Erik M&ouml;ller has just emailed this to the <a href=\"http:\/\/meta.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/Communications_committee\">communications committee list<\/a>, and said it can be posted publicly:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Quick note: The National Portrait Gallery contacted us to see if we can find a compromise regarding the images in question, and we&#8217;ve entered good faith discussions with them. Feel free to point this out in relevant places.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, details on terms, proposals etc. are confidential at this stage. But let&#8217;s assume that, interesting as a final verdict might be, neither WMF, the NPG or DCoetzee really want this to come to a legal battle. (The WMF is a charity and broke by definition, the NPG is a government sub-department.) That&#8217;s a <i>really good thing<\/i>. Working with people always beats working against them.<\/p>\n<p>So: what would you like to see in a compromise, that addresses the concerns of all sides? (My initial ideas are <a href=\"http:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2009\/07\/13\/has-anyone-been-in-touch-with-the-national-portrait-gallery\/\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>The real problem is funding digitisation &mdash; that governments tell galleries they have to make money from copyright on the works in their possession. This was barely workable last century, and is increasingly untenable in this one.<\/p>\n<p>That million pounds the NPG spent on digitisation was taxpayer&#8217;s money. We&#8217;ve already paid for it. IMO, we should be getting the images at highest resolution completely unencumbered. I don&#8217;t hold out hope of this being standard until we get the Ordnance Survey data and the postcode database released, though.<\/p>\n<p>(Also: this blog <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/technology\/8156268.stm\">quoted on the BBC News site<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>(<b>Note:<\/b> I am on the comcom list, and answer media queries as a WMF volunteer, but opinions on this blog are entirely mine and not WMF&#8217;s.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Erik M&ouml;ller has just emailed this to the communications committee list, and said it can be posted publicly: &#8220;Quick note: The National Portrait Gallery contacted us to see if we can find a compromise regarding the images in question, and we&#8217;ve entered good faith discussions with them. Feel free to point this out in relevant &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2009\/07\/17\/npg-talks-are-in-progress-what-would-you-like-to-see-from-them\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;NPG-WMF talks are in progress. What would you like to see from them?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-226","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wiki"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4FmVR-3E","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/226","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=226"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/226\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":234,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/226\/revisions\/234"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=226"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=226"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=226"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}