{"id":136,"date":"2008-12-07T17:14:43","date_gmt":"2008-12-07T17:14:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/?p=136"},"modified":"2011-01-04T20:34:06","modified_gmt":"2011-01-04T20:34:06","slug":"uk-censorship-of-virgin-killer-sleeve-and-page-on-wikipedia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2008\/12\/07\/uk-censorship-of-virgin-killer-sleeve-and-page-on-wikipedia\/","title":{"rendered":"UK censorship of Virgin Killer sleeve and page on Wikipedia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/group.php?gid=52982775239\" title=\"facebook.com\">Facebook group against this<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.pledgebank.com\/boycottcensors\" title=\"pledgebank.com\">Pledgebank ISP boycott<\/a>; <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikinews.org\/wiki\/British_ISPs_restrict_access_to_Wikipedia_amid_child_pornography_allegations\" title=\"wikinews.org\">Wikinews story<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m going to be on the BBC Radio 4 <i>Today<\/i> show tomorrow at 8:20am about this. IWF people present.\n<\/p>\n<p>The technical press are swarming. The story&#8217;s being touted to the national press.<\/p>\n<p>The IWF apparently sought the advice of police before blocking. Now, the police in the UK are notorious for trying it on with censorship cases, so that doesn&#8217;t mean the image is illegal.<\/p>\n<p>The album was released in 1976; child porn was illegalised in the UK in 1978. If the album was distributed in the UK since 1978 with that cover, it&#8217;s probably legal.<\/p>\n<p>The album cover has been reprinted in many books. Most of those books are in the Briitsh Library. Are those now obscene?<\/p>\n<p>Question for all: Has this <i>precise image<\/i> ever come to court? In the UK, in the world?<\/p>\n<p>The IWF had it pointed out that they were censoring encyclopedia <i>text<\/i>, which was clearly not illegal. The IWF responded that they needed to block the page to block the image effectively. This is of course utterly ludicrous bollocks, but apparently that&#8217;s the advice the IWF have received.<\/p>\n<p>They were also asked if they&#8217;d be censoring Amazon as well. They said they&#8217;d have to get back on that one.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s the <a href=\"http:\/\/newstechnica.com\/2008\/10\/12\/universal-internet-filter-plans-detailed\/\" title=\"today.com\">clbuttic error<\/a>, but this time on a top-10 site for everyone.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and <i>Blind Faith<\/i> by Blind Faith, <i>Houses of the Holy<\/i> by Led Zeppelin and <i>Nevermind<\/i> by Nirvana, also depicting nude underage persons, are still readily available in any high street CD store in the UK.\n<\/p>\n<p>It is clearly false that all images of an unclothed person under the 18 is automatically child porn and illegal in the UK. However, that&#8217;s the rule the IWF works to.\n<\/p>\n<p>Like DRM, if anyone works out there&#8217;s an IWF and how it works, then they&#8217;ve already lost. They&#8217;re tolerated precisely as long as they target only <i>clearly illegal<\/i> material. Here, they&#8217;re expanding their remit.<\/p>\n<p>Disclaimer: I do press for Wikipedia\/Wikimedia in the UK as a volunteer (and I&#8217;ve been on my email and phone all last night to about 2am and today since 9am). However, I am not a WMF employee and cannot legally claim to speak for them, only as a volunteer editor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Facebook group against this; Pledgebank ISP boycott; Wikinews story I&#8217;m going to be on the BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow at 8:20am about this. IWF people present. The technical press are swarming. The story&#8217;s being touted to the national press. The IWF apparently sought the advice of police before blocking. Now, the police in &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2008\/12\/07\/uk-censorship-of-virgin-killer-sleeve-and-page-on-wikipedia\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;UK censorship of Virgin Killer sleeve and page on Wikipedia&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-136","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-wiki"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4FmVR-2c","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=136"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":461,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/136\/revisions\/461"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=136"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=136"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=136"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}