{"id":4114,"date":"2018-01-12T22:32:16","date_gmt":"2018-01-12T22:32:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=4114"},"modified":"2018-07-11T21:14:44","modified_gmt":"2018-07-11T21:14:44","slug":"kodak-pt-3-kodakcoin-presale-prehistory-hot-takes-and-harsh-realities","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/01\/12\/kodak-pt-3-kodakcoin-presale-prehistory-hot-takes-and-harsh-realities\/","title":{"rendered":"Kodak pt 3: KodakCoin presale, prehistory, hot takes and harsh realities"},"content":{"rendered":"<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/01\/10\/kodaks-ico-for-a-stock-photo-site-that-doesnt-exist-yet-but-the-stock-price\/\">Part 1:<\/a> KodakCoin announced, stock price rockets<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/01\/10\/kodak-pt-2-photographers-cant-sell-kodakcoin-and-the-kodak-kashminer-is-a-bitcoin-mining-scam\/\">Part 2:<\/a> KodakCoin restrictions, the KashMiner scam<\/li>\n<li><strong>Part 3: KodakCoin presale, prehistory, hot takes and harsh realities<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/02\/07\/kodak-pt-4-kerrisdale-capitals-blistering-crypto-pre-mortem-for-kodak\/\">Part 4<\/a>: Kerrisdale Capital&#8217;s crypto pre-mortem for Kodak<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/03\/08\/kodak-pt-5-kodakcoin-ico-light-paper-released\/\">Part 5:<\/a> The KodakCoin ICO Light Paper<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/05\/29\/kodak-pt-6-kodakcoins-on-sale-and-the-reg-a-escape-route\/\">Part 6:<\/a> KodakCoins on sale, and the Reg A+ escape route<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/07\/11\/kodak-pt-7-kodak-kashminer-the-bitcoin-cloud-mining-scheme-that-never-existed\/\">Part 7:<\/a> The KashMiner that never was<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>KodakCoin, <em>n\u00e9e<\/em> RYDE Coin<\/h3>\n<p>WENN Digital, the company running the KodakCoin initiative is a partnership between WENN Media and Ryde GmbH, with AppCoin in the middle.<\/p>\n<p>The same group of people set up a <a href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/tech-policy\/2018\/01\/kodak-apparently-re-branded-a-paparazzi-licensing-platform-as-kodak-coin\/\">remarkably similar ICO called RYDE<\/a>, which was still active as of early January.<\/p>\n<p>WENN Media is an agency for freelance celebrity photographers, <em>i.e.<\/em> paparazzi. This is a plausible user base \u2014 they make their living from their photos, their market of celebrity news outlets have the money to pay them, and they have every interest in making the process work better.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2018\/01\/12\/kodak-pt-3-kodakcoin-presale-prehistory-hot-takes-and-harsh-realities\/wenn-photo-subjects\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-4132\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-4132\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/wenn-photo-subjects.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"80%\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/wenn-photo-subjects.jpg 768w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/01\/wenn-photo-subjects-300x170.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><i>Celebrity photo subjects from the RYDE crowdfunding page<\/i><\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/n1hFA\">RYDE Coin proposal<\/a> does not go into detail as to how all of this will work\u2014 it just describes the business of photo licensing, and implies that ICO tokens will somehow help:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>With RYDE coin, we hope to develop our blockchain platform to deliver registration, licensing, infringement, and other unique revenue streams in order to benefit the community of countless paparazzi and media conglomerates with whom we do business.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>None of this is new \u2014 there are any number of attempts at photo licensing on the blockchain. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bernstein.io\/\">Bernstein<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/ico.ipstock.com\/\">IPStock<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/icolink.com\/icos-list\/content-management,5.html\">so many others<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 it&#8217;s a popular candidate for &#8220;but with blockchain.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ryde was founded by Jan Denecke, an IP lawyer rather than a technologist. Ryde&#8217;s home page, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rewardyourideas.com\">rewardyourideas.com<\/a>, now redirects to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wenndigital.com\/\">WENN Digital page<\/a>, which presently just says &#8220;We will be launching within 24 hours!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20170702135911\/http:\/\/www.rewardyourideas.com:80\/\">early 2017 version<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/hYHQG\">archive<\/a>) of Ryde&#8217;s page made a simpler proposition \u2014 get Ryde to review your site for copyright violations, and they&#8217;ll kindly send you a bill! Amazing they pivoted, really.<\/p>\n<p>cmyk Trends <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cmyktrends.com\/off-set-blog\/ethereums-kodak-moment\">did some digging<\/a> for WENN Digital&#8217;s corporate origins:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>in November 2017, Ryde borrowed $100,000 from Appcoin Innovations Inc., a pink sheets company (recently renamed to symbol ICOX).<\/p>\n<p>Appcoin has two executives and no employees, with current assets of $195,000 and current liabilities of $260,000, not exactly a lender with deep pockets.<\/p>\n<p>Appcoin actually lent the money to WENN Digital Inc, which in turn sent it to Ryde GmbH. Turns out, Appcoin is also a provider of coin offering services to WENN Digital and expects to get paid in coins.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The KodakCoin version of the ICO seems to claim that they have &#8220;artificial intelligence&#8221; software to make all of this work:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>KodakOne artificial intelligence technology integrates and streamlines the tasks of photo management, protection and distribution, enabling photographers to benefit from new income streams and receive payments faster.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This implies some sort of automated AI legal threat engine. I shouldn&#8217;t need to tell you that this is not a thing that is known to exist or work properly at all, let alone as a <em>product<\/em>, and if it did they wouldn&#8217;t have had to start a dodgy ICO resting upon it.<\/p>\n<p>If there&#8217;s any AI in the system \u2014 if the system exists yet \u2014it&#8217;s almost certainly just image recognition.<\/p>\n<h3>When the Lambo of possibility thinking hits the brick wall of harsh reality<\/h3>\n<p>Anyone who knew anything about real-life blockchains, ICO tokens, computer science, real-world artificial intelligence, the stock photography market, copyright law or securities law would have seen the KodakCoin ICO proposal and reacted &#8220;THIS IS LITERALLY HOW NOT ONE BIT OF THIS WORKS.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But the hot take amongst academic economists who are into\u00a0<em>possibility thinking<\/em> is that KodakCoin and KodakOne is <em>the future of intellectual property,<\/em> actually, because &#8220;Kodak&#8221;\u00a0\u2014 as seen in pieces today on both <a href=\"https:\/\/theconversation.com\/kodakone-could-be-the-start-of-a-new-kind-of-intellectual-property-89966\">The Conversation<\/a> in Australia and <a href=\"https:\/\/inews.co.uk\/inews-lifestyle\/money\/kodaks-cryptocurrency-will-transform-the-way-photography-companies-make-their-money\/\">Independent iNews<\/a> in the UK.<\/p>\n<p>Note, in both pieces, the lack of attention to details such as &#8220;scaling,&#8221; &#8220;feasibility&#8221; or &#8220;why would a working photographer want to go within a mile of this thing.&#8221; I did <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/davidgerard\/status\/951729089790038016\">ask<\/a> the authors of the Conversation post what the actual claim they were making was &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Over on Twitter, Alan Graham goes off on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/agraham999\/status\/951874514442387457\">a bit of a rant<\/a> about the Conversation article and KodakCoin. &#8220;We work with all digital assets, so I deal with images and visual arts as well. This is why I call bs&#8230;I deal with this every day the past 4 years and know the scaling issues.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I share Alan&#8217;s motivation in debunking this sort of resentment-based marketing: &#8220;These articles fill artists with false hope that if you just believe in what they are selling you, it will all work out and you&#8217;ll magically not have any more piracy and you&#8217;ll get paid. Not true.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">&quot;There\u2019s no need for trusted third parties (governments) to enforce property rights. The blockchain does that for us.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Whoever wrote this has no understanding of copyright or perhaps law&#8230;and certainly technology.<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Alan Graham: he\u2019s just this guy, you know? (@agraham999) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/agraham999\/status\/951875812256567301?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Make Money Early<\/h3>\n<p>You will be unsurprised to hear that a pile of KodakCoin ICO tokens were <a href=\"https:\/\/blog.globalblockchain.io\/index.php\/2018\/01\/11\/global-blockchain-technologies-corp-leads-investment-in-kodak-coin\/\">pre-sold cheap<\/a> to Global Blockchain Technologies. This has been <a href=\"https:\/\/icowatchlist.com\/presale\">common practice in ICOs<\/a> \u2014 pre-sell a pile of your tokens to an investor, release the token and pump it, the pre-sale investor dumps theirs and cashes in.<\/p>\n<p>Various Kodak directors got stock options <a href=\"https:\/\/www.marketwatch.com\/story\/kodak-stock-pulls-back-directors-disclose-acquisitions-prior-to-blockchain-rally-2018-01-11\">the day before<\/a> the big announcements, but apparently this is fine.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Is it true Polaroidcoin ICO mines on a new Instant camera &amp; the coin disappears while printing? \ud83e\uddd0<\/p>\n<p>&mdash; PEAK BULLSHIT BRING IT GW190521 YOU EINSTEIN YOU (@mmahoooooit) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mmahoooooit\/status\/951904931551891457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">January 12, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>People keep turning over rocks, and more dubious KodakCoin stuff keeps scurrying out. 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