{"id":2951,"date":"2017-12-07T09:52:57","date_gmt":"2017-12-07T09:52:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=2951"},"modified":"2017-12-20T16:23:19","modified_gmt":"2017-12-20T16:23:19","slug":"patreon-payment-changes-and-what-they-mean-for-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2017\/12\/07\/patreon-payment-changes-and-what-they-mean-for-you\/","title":{"rendered":"Patreon payment changes and what they mean for you"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Patreon have put in a new payment structure. Every transaction now attracts a fee of 2.9% plus 35 cents, paid by the patron \u2014 rather than out of the creator&#8217;s share, as previously.<\/p>\n<p>Lots of creators are <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2017\/12\/07\/patreons-new-service-fee-spurs-concern-that-creators-will-lose-patrons\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">very unhappy<\/a> at these changes, and attempting to at least get an opt-out. As is immediately obvious, this will directly discourage (a) small monthy amounts\u00a0\u2014 the $1 tier, which will become a $1.38 tier\u00a0\u2014 and (b) per-creation pledges.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/patreon.zendesk.com\/hc\/en-us\/articles\/115005631963\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">Patreon&#8217;s FAQ<\/a> speaks as if this is great news with no downsides! Comic artist Gibson Twist does <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/GibsonTwist\/status\/938510432582717441?\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">some numbers<\/a> for his own Patreon:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Some quick math and the numbers are jarring. Right now, artists pocket \u00a080-85ish% of what our Patrons pay. Under the new system, we&#8217;ll get \u00a0roughly 70% of what most Patrons pay. They&#8217;re selling to us as &#8220;You get a \u00a0higher % of the money!&#8221; but in truth, we&#8217;re getting a lot less.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For me, I&#8217;m somewhat annoyed, as <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2017\/11\/19\/subscribe-to-my-blockchain-news-blog-at-patreon-5-month-for-early-access\/\">your $5<\/a> will become about $5.50 (with about the same overhead) \u2014 but the point of the $1 tier is to get interested people to sign up at all. Gah.<\/p>\n<p>It turns out <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Monopsony\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">monopsonies<\/a> have a number of practical problems.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll be sticking with Patreon for now\u00a0\u2014 if you haven&#8217;t subscribed, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">please do so<\/a>, I really appreciate it and it helps a lot!\u00a0\u2014 but some creators,\u00a0<em>e.g.<\/em>, the estimable <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2017\/10\/22\/bitcoin-in-popular-culture-andrew-hickey-the-basilisk-murders-chapter-1-the-main-character-encounters-the-sort-of-person-who-runs-singularity-conferences\/\">Andrew Hickey<\/a>, are <a href=\"https:\/\/andrewhickey.info\/2017\/12\/07\/changing-patreon-structure-and-announcing-book-of-the-month-club\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">exploring other options<\/a>. We&#8217;ll see what shakes out.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update:<\/b> Patreon have <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2017\/12\/13\/book-news-paperback-in-australia-kindle-discount-in-india-patreon-reverses-fee-change\/\">backed down for now<\/a>.<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Patreon have put in a new payment structure. Every transaction now attracts a fee of 2.9% plus 35 cents, paid by the patron. Many creators are <i>very<\/i> unhappy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[177,298,256],"class_list":["post-2951","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorised","tag-andrew-hickey","tag-gibson-twist","tag-patreon"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2951","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2951"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2951\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3269,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2951\/revisions\/3269"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2951"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2951"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2951"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}