{"id":26937,"date":"2024-09-19T21:54:28","date_gmt":"2024-09-19T21:54:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=26937"},"modified":"2024-09-20T21:24:18","modified_gmt":"2024-09-20T21:24:18","slug":"no-the-bitcoin-price-did-not-move-from-debates-trump-buying-crypto-burgers-or-anything-other-than-shenanigans","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2024\/09\/19\/no-the-bitcoin-price-did-not-move-from-debates-trump-buying-crypto-burgers-or-anything-other-than-shenanigans\/","title":{"rendered":"No, the bitcoin price did not move from debates, Trump &#8216;crypto burgers&#8217; or anything other than shenanigans"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bitcoin has fallen out of the public consciousness to such a degree that even the press have forgotten that the BTC price goes up and down like a yoyo for any reason or none. So I\u2019m getting questions I\u2019ve answered before, which means it&#8217;s time to make them into a post. [<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-value-drop-presidential-debate-kamala-harris-donald-trump-1951926\">Newsweek<\/a>; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.newsweek.com\/donald-trump-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-price-increase-1956371\">Newsweek<\/a><\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>Donald Trump is talking about bitcoin and crypto a lot of late. You&#8217;d almost think he was short of ready cash. Zeke Faux and Muyao Shen have a great article on Chase Herro (<i>a.k.a.<\/i> Chase Hero), the guy actually running Trump&#8217;s crypto company, World Liberty Financial. Herro has gone down in the world from selling colon cleanses. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/features\/2024-09-13\/behind-the-trump-crypto-project-is-a-self-described-dirtbag-of-the-internet\"><i>Bloomberg<\/i><\/a><i>, <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/archive.is\/jxARi\"><i>archive<\/i><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>And yesterday Trump bought &#8220;crypto burgers&#8221; for supporters at a bitcoin-themed bar in New York \u2014 apparently paying in bitcoins, though someone else had to make the transaction for him. [<a href=\"https:\/\/eu.usatoday.com\/story\/news\/politics\/elections\/2024\/09\/19\/donald-trump-crypto-burgers-video\/75293759007\/\"><i>USA Today<\/i><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2024\/09\/19\/no-the-bitcoin-price-did-not-move-from-debates-trump-buying-crypto-burgers-or-anything-other-than-shenanigans\/trump-crypto-burger\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-26938\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-26938\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/trump-crypto-burger.webp\" alt=\"\" width=\"510\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/trump-crypto-burger.webp 680w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/trump-crypto-burger-300x185.webp 300w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/trump-crypto-burger-348x215.webp 348w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>So is this why <i>number went up?<\/i><\/h3>\n<p>No. You don&#8217;t need to invoke a <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2024\/07\/30\/foreign-policy-trumps-crypto-turnaround-heralds-an-economic-nightmare\/\">Trump speech at Bitcoin 2024<\/a>, debate performance or buying hamburgers as explanations. Going up or down $5,000 in a day is par for the course in bitcoin.<\/p>\n<p>Cryptocurrency markets just don&#8217;t react to what would normally be considered a market signal in the same way as markets in well-regulated high-volume securities or commodities.<\/p>\n<p>These are small, thinly-traded and ill-regulated commodity markets. This means that internal manipulations absolutely swamp broader macro signals.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a nice study from the New York Federal Reserve. &#8220;The key result is that, unlike other U.S. asset classes, Bitcoin is orthogonal to monetary and macroeconomic news.&#8221; [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.newyorkfed.org\/medialibrary\/media\/research\/staff_reports\/sr1052.pdf?sc_lang=en\"><i>New York Fed<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<h3>Binance is where the price of bitcoin is set<\/h3>\n<p>The bitcoin price is set by trading, and that&#8217;s overwhelmingly trading against the unregulated Tether and FDUSD stablecoins on Binance.<\/p>\n<p>The volumes of just the BTC\/USDT and\u00a0BTC\/FDUSD trading pairs on that one exchange swamp all other trading in\u00a0 bitcoins. Coinbase or regulated ETFs aren&#8217;t even in the running.<\/p>\n<p>Binance is under <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2023\/11\/22\/binance-gets-hit-with-cryptos-worst-possible-fate-compliance\/\">severe US monitoring<\/a> with regard to money laundering compliance and keeping US entities off the exchange \u2014 but the trading floor remains completely unregulated.<\/p>\n<p>Every market abuse you can think of \u2014 wash trading, manipulation, the exchange trading against its own customers \u2014 is standard. And probably not even illegal!<\/p>\n<p>The Tether and FDUSD stablecoins&#8217; backing is also extremely dubious. Tether admits that a large part of their backing is loans of USDT, where they create USDT out of thin air then claim the loan itself is the reserve asset backing those USDT. And I flatly don&#8217;t believe FDUSD is meaningfully backed by actual dollars.<\/p>\n<p>Amy Castor and I wrote about all this earlier this year, <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2024\/03\/06\/bitcoin-hits-a-new-all-time-high-world-reacts-wow-that-things-still-around\/\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/amycastor.com\/2024\/03\/19\/bitcoin-goes-up-so-it-must-come-down-what-goes-into-the-price-of-btc\/\">here<\/a>. Nothing has changed through 2024.<\/p>\n<p>Bitcoin does not react to macro signals \u2014 only to internal market shenanigans.<\/p>\n<h3>Could there be an outside signal that affected the price of bitcoin?<\/h3>\n<p>Sure. Some drastic regulatory or criminal action that changes the shape of the market \u2014 say, busting Tether or Justin Sun. That\u2019d probably do things.<\/p>\n<p>Short of that, I expect the present nonsense to continue \u2014 the public won\u2019t care, the number will go up and down and journalists will occasionally notice the number and wonder if there\u2019s a story there. But there isn\u2019t, really.<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bitcoin does not react to macro signals \u2014 only to internal market shenanigans.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":26938,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[21,3851,1362,3617,3850,39,3852],"class_list":["post-26937","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorised","tag-bitcoin","tag-chase-herro","tag-donald-trump","tag-fdusd","tag-markets","tag-tether","tag-world-liberty-financial"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/trump-crypto-burger.webp","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26937","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26937"}],"version-history":[{"count":29,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26937\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26967,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26937\/revisions\/26967"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/26938"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26937"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26937"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26937"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}