{"id":24049,"date":"2022-11-02T21:24:37","date_gmt":"2022-11-02T21:24:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=24049"},"modified":"2022-11-02T21:24:37","modified_gmt":"2022-11-02T21:24:37","slug":"celsius-network-bankruptcy-hearing-1-november-2022-stablecoins-kerps-and-ponzis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/11\/02\/celsius-network-bankruptcy-hearing-1-november-2022-stablecoins-kerps-and-ponzis\/","title":{"rendered":"Celsius Network bankruptcy hearing,  1 November 2022: stablecoins, KERPs and Ponzis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>By <strong>Amy Castor<\/strong> and <strong>David Gerard<\/strong><\/i><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li aria-level=\"1\">Our work is funded by our subscribers on Patreon \u2014 here\u2019s<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/amycastor\"> Amy\u2019s<\/a>, and here\u2019s<a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/davidgerard\/overview\"> David\u2019s<\/a>. Your monthly contributions help us greatly!<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A hearing in the Celsius bankruptcy was held over Zoom at 11 a.m. on November 1, 2022. Amy sat through all three hours and took notes. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174911012280000000012.pdf\"><i>Amended agenda<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Celsius is pretty much dead. A lot of today\u2019s arguments were over the spare change in the stiff\u2019s pockets.<\/p>\n<p>The unexploded bomb under the entire proceeding is the forthcoming <a href=\"https:\/\/amycastor.com\/2022\/10\/16\/crypto-collapse-40-states-chasing-celsius-for-possible-securities-fraud-texas-chasing-voyager-and-ftx-for-possible-securities-fraud\/\">examiner\u2019s report<\/a> on what the heck happened here. The examiner, Shoba Pillay, will look into possible fraud. This includes whether Celsius operated as a Ponzi scheme \u2014 paying early investors with money from later investors.<\/p>\n<p>An examiner\u2019s report is due in December. If Pillay\u2019s report indicates criminal activity, all bets are off.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/11\/02\/celsius-network-bankruptcy-hearing-1-november-2022-stablecoins-kerps-and-ponzis\/bomb\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-24050\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-24050\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/bomb.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"340\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/bomb.png 680w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/bomb-300x185.png 300w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/bomb-348x215.png 348w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>No, secret Celsius employees do not get bonuses<\/h3>\n<p>A KERP is a \u201ckey employee retention program.\u201d This is bonus money that a bankrupt company gives to select employees so they don\u2019t despair and walk off the job. Insiders \u2014 founders, directors, and those in control of the company \u2014 are prohibited from receiving KERP bonuses<\/p>\n<p>Celsius\u2019 KERP proposes to distribute $2.96 million among 62 \u201cessential\u201d employees. Celsius currently has 274 employees, down from 900 at the beginning of the year. It&#8217;s not clear what they are all doing right now \u2014 other than responding to investigations.<\/p>\n<p>The Unsecured Creditors\u2019 Committee (UCC) supports Celsius\u2019 KERP motion. The UCC is seven individuals who lost big in Celsius, and imagine Celsius will emerge from the ashes. They want to keep Celsius as a fully functioning company in case a buyer comes along, or Celsius ever actually files a reorganization plan \u2014 which it hasn\u2019t yet. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910122280000000011.pdf\"><i>Doc 1021<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910252280000000175.pdf\"><i>Doc 1187<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Judge Martin Glenn doesn\u2019t have an issue with KERPs in general. The problem is that Celsius also wants to redact names, titles, salaries \u2014 any meaningful information at all \u2014 about the proposed KERP participants. This is <i>novel<\/i>. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910122280000000010.pdf\"><i>Doc 1020<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>See for yourself \u2014 pages 30 to 55 of the KERP motion are a list of names and job functions, and <i>every single one<\/i> is blacked out. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910122280000000011.pdf\"><i>Doc 1021<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/11\/02\/celsius-network-bankruptcy-hearing-1-november-2022-stablecoins-kerps-and-ponzis\/celsius-kerp-redacted\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-24051\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-24051\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/celsius-kerp-redacted.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"457\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/celsius-kerp-redacted.png 707w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/celsius-kerp-redacted-263x300.png 263w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn was \u201cshocked\u201d by the sealing motion. Of all the KERP motions he had ruled on over the years, Judge Glenn said he had never seen one which proposed to seal <i>everything.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI mean, you\u2019ve got to be joking,\u201d Judge Glenn straight out told Kirkland\u2019s Dan Latona, who was presenting on behalf of Celsius.<\/p>\n<p>Has Celsius learned nothing? When they previously tried to <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/10\/09\/crypto-collapse-celsius-reveals-its-creditor-list-3ac-nfts-terra-luna-voyager\/\">redact the names of creditors<\/a>, Judge Glenn told them he was not about to rewrite the bankruptcy code for crypto. Despite that warning, Celsius goes and files something where everything is blacked out. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174909282280000000026.pdf\"><i>Doc 910<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn denied the KERP motion and the KERP sealing motion without prejudice \u2014 so Celsius can try again. He was okay with some information being redacted \u2014 just not all of it. Celsius must confer with the UCC and the US Trustee on what can be redacted. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174911022280000000071.pdf\"><i>Order<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Kirkland had to have known Judge Glenn would shoot this down. We suspect Celsius pushed them into it, and Kirkland didn\u2019t push back, because Celsius is their client and they\u2019re getting paid millions \u2014 from the creditors\u2019 money.<\/p>\n<h3>Examiner expands her work plan \u2014 and the judge says the P-word<\/h3>\n<p>Next were the motions from the examiner, Shoba Pillay, to approve a work plan and to expand the scope of the investigation. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910112280000000162.pdf\"><i>Doc 1013<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910192280000000008.pdf\"><i>Doc 1112<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Pillay read through more than 400 filings from pro se creditors (ones without lawyers, representing themselves) and spoke to state regulators. She now wants to expand the scope of her work to look into Celsius\u2019 own CEL token, and how CEL was represented to investors. You could get a higher interest rate from Celsius if you were willing to take it in CEL tokens.<\/p>\n<p>Pillay also wants to look into how Celsius marketed itself to customers. Creditors claim Celsius misled them about the safety of their investments, and the manner in which their deposits would be treated.<\/p>\n<p>The UCC was the lone objector to portions of the expanded scope, with Greg Pesce of White &amp; Case (for the UCC), arguing it would duplicate work and cost creditors more money.<\/p>\n<p>Of course it will! You can\u2019t get anything done this fast without duplicating work.<\/p>\n<p>The point of the examiner is to be a neutral party. She doesn\u2019t have a fiduciary responsibility to any party. That\u2019s the value of her report.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn said that right now, the court is happy to rely on the examiner for investigations.<\/p>\n<p>If Pillay can\u2019t complete her work, Celsius is just going to get subpoenaed by the SEC and dozens of state regulators anyway. Those investigations and proceedings are probably not stayed, and the cost to the estate would be substantially higher.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIsn\u2019t your constituency better off if it is the examiner for now? It doesn\u2019t prevent the state regulators or the SEC or the US attorney from launching whatever they\u2019re going to do. But aren\u2019t you better off if it is focused through the examiner?\u201d Judge Glenn asked.<\/p>\n<p>Layla Milligan, the assistant attorney general of Texas, weighed in on the examiner\u2019s expanded scope, saying the more information that\u2019s publicly available, the better. \u201cSometimes sunlight is the best disinfectant,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p>A few of the pro se creditors brought up the need to look into whether Celsius operated as a Ponzi scheme \u2014 if the company was paying existing investors with money from new investors.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn asked the lawyers for the UCC and the examiner if they were looking into whether Celsus was a Ponzi.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe committee is looking into whether Celsius did things that would have made it a Ponzi scheme,\u201d said UCC lawyer Greg Pesce. \u201cWe don\u2019t know that today. We are going to keep doing that as part of our investigation.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Examiner\u2019s lawyer Vincent Lazar said that a number of the facts are already covered within the scope of the examination. \u201cWe would need to expand it a little.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Celsius has been dragging its feet in responding to examiner requests. In her work plan, Pillay said that if she is going to meet the court\u2019s deadlines for delivering her reports, then \u201cthe pace of access to documents will need to be accelerated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Lazar said that Pillay was on track to deliver the interim report on deadline and that the final report can be completed on schedule with a possible \u201cvery short extension.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>We imagine Pillay has people working around the clock to get these reports out on time.<\/p>\n<p>In her work plan, Pillay estimates that the total fees for the examiner and her counsel, Jenner &amp; Block, will add up to between $3\u20135 million.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn approved both examiner motions. He directed the lawyers for the UCC and the examiner to confer on who will focus on the \u201cso-called Ponzi schemes\u201d to avoid overlap.<\/p>\n<h3>Pro se motions \u2014\u00a0the creditors speak!<\/h3>\n<p>There were six motions from pro se creditors.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn has been good about giving creditors an opportunity to speak in the hearings \u2014\u00a0and he expects Kirkland lawyers to take the pro se motions seriously. The creditors are paying their salaries, not Celsius.<\/p>\n<p>Kwok Mei Po was an Earn customer, whose Earn accounts were suspended, and who asked if her crypto could be returned to her. Kirkland Associate Tommy Scheffer argued her motion should be denied.<\/p>\n<p>When Judge Glenn asked if Scheffer had written up specifics on her claim and reasons for her suspension in his objection, he said no.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t simply blow off pro se creditors, I am not going to put up with it,\u201d Judge Glenn said. \u201cYou may not like having to respond to pro se creditors, but I do expect full responses.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn took all of the pro se motions under submission. One from Victor Ubierna de las Heras (requesting particular Rule 2004 discovery) and two from Daniel Frishberg (cost savings and insider clawbacks) were subsequently denied. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174911022280000000063.pdf\"><i>Doc 1266<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174911022280000000070.pdf\"><i>Doc 1267<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174911022280000000073.pdf\"><i>Doc 1269<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<h3>Who owns the stablecoins?<\/h3>\n<p>Celsius has $23 million in 11 types of stablecoins. It wants to sell these to come up with cash to fund its operations. In its 15 September motion, Celsius doesn\u2019t specify which stablecoins it holds, how much it wants to sell, or what operations it wants to put the money toward. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174909162280000000022.pdf\"><i>Docket 832<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>One big question is: does Celsius own these coins? They have to prove they own the coins in order to sell them.<\/p>\n<p>Creditors who deposited stablecoins say that they own the stablecoins, as secured creditors, so they should get back 100% of them. Celsius and the UCC say the stablecoins are just part of the unsecured bankruptcy estate, like the rest of the remaining crypto.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the stablecoins were in Celsius \u201cEarn\u201d accounts, where you could deposit cryptos and get up to 18% interest. (See our <a href=\"https:\/\/amycastor.com\/2022\/09\/11\/crypto-collapse-celsius-voyager-skybridge-the-liabilities-are-real-the-assets-are-fake\/\">explanation of the types of Celsius account<\/a>.) \u201cWe believe the Earn coins are Celsius assets,\u201d Koenig told the court, and that this was \u201cclear and unambiguous.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The Celsius terms of service for Earn accounts say that all crypto deposited, including stablecoins, is owned by Celsius, who then have a liability to the depositor. But some depositors put stablecoins in under previous terms or deposited them with a different Celsius corporation. It\u2019s a mess.<\/p>\n<p>Kirkland attorney Chris Koenig for Celsius said they\u2019ve been working with the various parties \u2014 the Trustee, the UCC, the ad-hoc groups, and state regulators \u2014 to address the objections, but they need more time to negotiate.<\/p>\n<p>The court will address the issue of the ownership of Earn accounts \u2014 which held other crypto as well as stablecoins \u2014 on 5 December.<\/p>\n<h3>Adjourned matters<\/h3>\n<p>Two motions were adjourned.<\/p>\n<p>Celsius wants to set a bar date \u2014 a deadline for when proofs of claims have to be submitted \u2014 of December 13. They also want the court to approve their claim form. This motion will be heard as part of the hearing on 15 November. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910122280000000008.pdf\"><i>Doc 1019<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>Bradley Condit, former Celsius controller, brought a civil action against Celsius and its former CFO, Yaron Shalem, on 28 June 2022 \u2014 two weeks before Celsius filed for Chapter 11. This action was automatically stayed by the bankruptcy.<\/p>\n<p>Judge Glenn has allowed Condit\u2019s case to proceed solely insofar as it would be paid out from Celsius\u2019 employment practices liability insurance policies \u2014 and not from the bankruptcy estate.<\/p>\n<p>This motion was supposed to be heard on 1 November \u2014 but it\u2019s now been adjourned to an undetermined future date. [<a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174909072280000000101.pdf\"><i>Doc 684<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910282280000000009.pdf\"><i>Doc 1216<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF; <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/cases.stretto.com\/public\/x191\/11749\/PLEADINGS\/1174910312280000000070.pdf\"><i>Doc 1246<\/i><\/a><i>, PDF<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cBar date hearing\u201d is November 15; the next omnibus hearing is December 5.<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>When the judge brings up the word &#8220;Ponzi&#8221; &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":24050,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[3296,916,3288,3301,3297,3299,3290,3079,3266,551,3300,3298,2564],"class_list":["post-24049","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorised","tag-bradley-condit","tag-celsius","tag-dan-latona","tag-daniel-frishberg","tag-greg-pesce","tag-kwok-mei-po","tag-layla-milligan","tag-martin-glenn","tag-shoba-pillay","tag-texas","tag-victor-ubierna-de-las-heras","tag-vincent-lazar","tag-yaron-shalem"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/11\/bomb.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24049","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=24049"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24049\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":24059,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/24049\/revisions\/24059"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/24050"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=24049"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=24049"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=24049"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}