{"id":21613,"date":"2022-01-26T12:28:06","date_gmt":"2022-01-26T12:28:06","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=21613"},"modified":"2022-02-11T21:12:37","modified_gmt":"2022-02-11T21:12:37","slug":"facebooks-libra-is-still-dead-diem-to-be-sold-off-for-spare-parts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/01\/26\/facebooks-libra-is-still-dead-diem-to-be-sold-off-for-spare-parts\/","title":{"rendered":"Facebook\u2019s Libra is still dead \u2014 Diem to be sold off for spare parts"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Facebook is doing a great job at spurring regulatory clarity in the industry \u2014 alas, in the direction of \u201cban this and jail everyone involved.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">\u2014 Ben Munster, June 2019 [<a href=\"https:\/\/decrypt.co\/7520\/with-libra-facebook-jumps-on-a-long-derailed-bandwagon\"><em>Decrypt<\/em><\/a>]<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Diem was the rebranding of Facebook\u2019s Libra cryptocurrency project, which you\u2019ll recall <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/libra\/\">I wrote a book about.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>When Libra launched in June 2019, financial regulators around the world took one look, and told Facebook:<a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/06\/24\/foreign-policy-facebooks-new-currency-has-big-claims-and-bad-ideas-by-me\/\"> no, and hell no.<\/a> When a regulator uses the word \u201csystemic,\u201d that\u2019s the sound of the air-raid sirens going off.<\/p>\n<p>The US government <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2020\/07\/20\/facebooks-libra-was-dead-as-of-july-2019\/\">crushed Libra like a bug in July 2019<\/a> when it became clear that Facebook was not only messing with the money, but doing so with utter incompetence.<\/p>\n<p>The project wheezed along for a couple of years, not doing anything. The founders all left Facebook \u2014 zombie death march projects get wearying.<\/p>\n<p>Bloomberg this morning tells how Diem is shutting up shop \u2014 it\u2019s \u201cin discussions with investment bankers about how best to sell its intellectual property.\u201d [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.bloomberg.com\/news\/articles\/2022-01-25\/zuckerberg-s-stablecoin-ambitions-unravel-with-diem-sale-talks\"><i>Bloomberg<\/i><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2020\/12\/03\/facebooks-libra-is-now-diem-stable-act-says-stablecoins-must-get-banking-licenses\/diem-white-elephant\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-18244\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-18244\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/diem-white-elephant.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"510\" height=\"315\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/diem-white-elephant.jpg 680w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/diem-white-elephant-300x185.jpg 300w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/diem-white-elephant-348x215.jpg 348w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 510px) 100vw, 510px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Silvergate rescue plan fails<\/h3>\n<p>The US government was just absolutely not going to let Facebook do a private currency, backed by a basket mostly of foreign currencies, at worldwide scale.<\/p>\n<p>So Diem wound its plans back to doing just a <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2020\/11\/27\/facebook-libra-may-launch-january-2021-with-us-dollars-only-what-this-means\/\">US dollar stablecoin.<\/a> The point seems to have been for Facebook to be able to do something \u2014 anything \u2014 in this area.<\/p>\n<p>Regulatory discourse around stablecoins has been leaning for a while towards requiring stablecoin issuers to be banks. The proposed <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2020\/12\/03\/facebooks-libra-is-now-diem-stable-act-says-stablecoins-must-get-banking-licenses\/\">STABLE Act,<\/a> put forward in late 2020, didn\u2019t get put into law \u2014 but the thinking in it has been influential.<\/p>\n<p>So in May 2021, <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/05\/14\/facebooks-diem-stablecoin-moves-to-the-us-and-hooks-up-with-silvergate-bank\/\">Diem hooked up with Silvergate Bank<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 the bankers to most of cryptocurrency in the US. Diem would run the network, and the reserve would live at Silvergate. This shouldn\u2019t have been outrageous, as Silvergate already holds the reserves for Pax Dollars and Gemini Dollars.<\/p>\n<p>But regulators still fundamentally didn\u2019t want to let Facebook anywhere near the money, because of the ample evidence from the Libra saga that the company would be arrogant idiots if they were let near the money. Per Bloomberg:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>After a lengthy back-and-forth between the Diem advocates and regulators, Fed officials finally told Silvergate last summer that the agency was uneasy with the plan and couldn\u2019t assure the bank that it would allow that activity, the people said.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/08\/22\/news-facebook-abandoning-diem-soulja-boy-vs-atari-kurson-arrested-again-el-salvador\/\">Silvergate\u2019s stock price took a hit<\/a> over this, as the Diem deal had been a major part of their plans going forward.<\/p>\n<p>By <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/08\/22\/news-facebook-abandoning-diem-soulja-boy-vs-atari-kurson-arrested-again-el-salvador\/\">August 2021,<\/a> Facebook was actively looking into backing their Novi cryptocurrency wallet \u2014 created for Libra \u2014 with a different stablecoin.<\/p>\n<p>With the Silvergate plan being rejected, Diem assumed it was just <i>persona non grata<\/i>, and it was time to finally give up.<\/p>\n<h3>Cutting Diem up for parts<\/h3>\n<p>The intellectual property will consist of some trademarks, a website and the open-source code for a mediocre permissioned blockchain and various helper projects.<\/p>\n<p>Diem hopes to return what little money there is to its investors \u2014 apparently Diem is owned one-third by Facebook, and the rest by other members of the consortium.<\/p>\n<p>They also want to \u201cfind a new home for the engineers who developed the technology.\u201d Layoff time at Facebook\u2019s Novi Financial?<\/p>\n<p>Diem declined to comment to Bloomberg. Michael Crittenden from Diem told The Verge that the Bloomberg story had \u201csome factual errors,\u201d but wouldn\u2019t say what they were. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.theverge.com\/2022\/1\/25\/22901830\/facebook-meta-libra-diem-crypto-project-explores-sale\"><i>The Verge<\/i><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update,<\/strong> 27 January: The Wall Street Journal reports that Silvergate Capital (the holding company for Silvergate Bank) is buying Diem&#8217;s &#8220;technology&#8221; for &#8220;about $200 million, a person familiar with the matter said.&#8221; I would just love to see what Silvergate thinks it&#8217;s getting $200 million worth of. Or if there&#8217;s some other reason to throw $200 million down this black hole. [<em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/facebooks-cryptocurrency-venture-to-wind-down-sell-assets-11643248799\">WSJ<\/a>, paywalled<\/em>]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update,<\/strong> 2 February: apparently it&#8217;s a pile of <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2022\/02\/07\/news-world-wildlife-nft-diem-sale-details-eccb-dcash-offline\/\">blockchain patents<\/a> \u2014 because Silvergate want to use Diem&#8217;s software to do a stablecoin of their own.<\/p>\n<h3>Novi adds NFTs<\/h3>\n<p>Novi, formerly Calibra, was supposed to be Facebook\u2019s custodial wallet for Diem \u2014 PayPal, but it\u2019s Facebook. Novi eventually launched very slightly using the Pax Dollar stablecoin instead of Diem \u2014 for <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/11\/02\/facebooks-novi-hooks-up-in-guatemala-with-paxos-not-diem-just-in-time-for-the-stablecoin-report\/\">a pilot programme in Guatemala,<\/a> and in <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/12\/18\/news-david-marcus-quits-facebook-whatsapp-uses-novi-corporate-nft-disasters\/\">the latest WhatsApp.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Novi uses Pax Dollars in the sense that there\u2019s an account at Coinbase holding a pile of Pax Dollars. The end user sees a number in their Novi wallet app that&#8217;s just the number in Novi&#8217;s back-end database. The most efficient way to use the blockchain is still not to use it at all if you can.<\/p>\n<p>US Senators are <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/11\/02\/facebooks-novi-hooks-up-in-guatemala-with-paxos-not-diem-just-in-time-for-the-stablecoin-report\/\">still unhappy<\/a> with Facebook going even this far into payments.<\/p>\n<p>Facebook is pushing forward its plans for NFTs. You\u2019ll be able to use NFTs as avatars on Facebook and Instagram \u2014 just like you can on Twitter! \u2014 and they\u2019re contemplating starting an NFT marketplace. Novi Wallet is apparently an important part of this. [<a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/content\/2745d50b-36e4-4c0a-abe0-e93f035b0628\"><i>FT<\/i><\/a><i>, paywalled<\/i>]<\/p>\n<p>David Marcus, <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/12\/18\/news-david-marcus-quits-facebook-whatsapp-uses-novi-corporate-nft-disasters\/\">now-departed<\/a> co-founder of Facebook\u2019s Libra cryptocurrency project, mentioned in passing to Bloomberg in September that NFTs would be <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2021\/09\/06\/news-the-eos-ico-was-a-fake-pump-cardano-smart-contracts-fail-cycling-vs-nexthash-microstrategy-de-indexed-el-salvador-live-tomorrow\/\">just the thing for the Metaverse<\/a>. Second Life, but your fursona is an office drone.<\/p>\n<h3>Requiem for a nightmare<\/h3>\n<p>When I dived into Libra, the thing that really struck me was the arrogant incompetence. Facebook had no idea what it was doing, and it didn\u2019t think that mattered.<\/p>\n<p>For all the effort from journalists trying to work out the precise 12-dimensional chess Facebook must surely have been playing &#8230; maybe Libra was just <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/09\/12\/france-shuns-facebooks-libra-how-was-libra-stupid-enough-to-end-up-here\/\">very stupid.<\/a> Because it was a blockchain project started by bitcoiners. Maybe it was always just dumb as hell.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"und\" dir=\"ltr\"><a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/x0DNsfysAg\">pic.twitter.com\/x0DNsfysAg<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Shen Comix \u270d\ufe0f (@shenanigansen) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/shenanigansen\/status\/1171180157916319744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">September 9, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Maybe Libra was just very stupid. Because it was a blockchain project started by bitcoiners. 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