{"id":15118,"date":"2019-12-01T16:24:43","date_gmt":"2019-12-01T16:24:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/?p=15118"},"modified":"2021-11-24T22:18:25","modified_gmt":"2021-11-24T22:18:25","slug":"virgil-griffith-arrested-over-north-korea-visit-engineer-arrogance-but-on-the-blockchain","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/12\/01\/virgil-griffith-arrested-over-north-korea-visit-engineer-arrogance-but-on-the-blockchain\/","title":{"rendered":"Virgil Griffith arrested over North Korea visit \u2014 engineer arrogance, but on the blockchain"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>After a well-received technical talk to a keen audience on the other side of the world, Ethereum Foundation developer Virgil Griffith is on the short list for a new contract with the US Government \u2014 who will even pay his room and board for the duration!<\/p>\n<p>Griffith was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justice.gov\/usao-sdny\/pr\/manhattan-us-attorney-announces-arrest-united-states-citizen-assisting-north-korea\">arrested by the US<\/a> on Thursday 28 November for going to North Korea for the 2019 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.kfausa.org\/2019-pyongyang-blockchain-cryptocurrency-conference\/\">Pyongyang Blockchain and Cryptocurrency Conference<\/a> \u2014 and teaching the DPRK how to evade US sanctions, on the blockchain. Here&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justice.gov\/usao-sdny\/press-release\/file\/1222646\/download\">the indictment<\/a> (PDF), which was filed on 21 November.<\/p>\n<p>Griffith is a US citizen, and it&#8217;s illegal for a US citizen to travel to North Korea without explicit permission from the State Department \u2014 which he asked for, and they refused. He went anyway \u2014 tweeting about his trip, posting his <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20191201141239\/https:\/\/twitter.com\/virgilgr\/status\/1161217917427470337\">visa for North Korea,<\/a> and encouraging others to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nktpnd\/status\/1200501691474423809\">come to the conference<\/a> with him.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/12\/01\/virgil-griffith-arrested-over-north-korea-visit-engineer-arrogance-but-on-the-blockchain\/virgil-griffith-visa-tweet\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-21144\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-21144\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/virgil-griffith-visa-tweet.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"536\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/virgil-griffith-visa-tweet.jpg 600w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/virgil-griffith-visa-tweet-300x268.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Department of Justice claims Griffith helped transfer cryptocurrency between North Korea and South Korea, a slam-dunk violation of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act \u2014 and that Griffith literally told this to an FBI agent in an interview.<\/p>\n<p>Ben Munster wrote about the conference in Decrypt in September, <a href=\"https:\/\/decrypt.co\/9364\/north-korea-to-launch-its-own-crypto\">quoting at length<\/a> an &#8220;anonymous attendee&#8221; \u2014 who said that &#8220;the main things (the North Koreans) were interested in were using Bitcoin to get around sanctions, and using Ethereum for U.N.-less courts.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>By the way \u2014 the February 2020 conference is <a href=\"https:\/\/nkcryptocon.com\/\">open for registration!<\/a> Unless you&#8217;re a <a href=\"https:\/\/nkcryptocon.com\/how-to-apply\/\">journalist.<\/a> Passports from South Korea, Japan and Israel are not welcome, but <a href=\"https:\/\/nkcryptocon.com\/FAQ\/\">US passports are<\/a> \u2014 &#8220;we will provide a paper visa separated from your passport, so there will be no evidence of your entry to the country.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/12\/01\/virgil-griffith-arrested-over-north-korea-visit-engineer-arrogance-but-on-the-blockchain\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-15119\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-15119\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"431\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi.png 1200w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi-300x259.png 300w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi-1024x882.png 1024w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/griffith-in-nk-to-fbi-768x662.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Griffith is a research scientist with the Ethereum Foundation, working on mainnet and enterprise development. (Vitalik Buterin on Griffith&#8217;s trip: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mdudas\/status\/1200524032338210819\">&#8220;enjoy.&#8221;<\/a>) The Foundation has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.vice.com\/en_us\/article\/d3andj\/researcher-arrested-for-allegedly-teaching-north-korea-about-ethereum\">disclaimed<\/a> all involvement \u2014 &#8220;We can confirm that the Foundation was not represented in any capacity at the events outlined in the Justice Department\u2019s filing, and that the Foundation neither approved nor supported any such travel, which was a personal matter.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Griffith sure went out of his way to make friends \u2014 he was <a href=\"https:\/\/lists.torproject.org\/pipermail\/tor-project\/2016-May\/000355.html\">kicked out of the Tor project<\/a> for collecting, then attempting to deanonymise and sell, user data to INTERPOL and the Singaporean government. And <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/isislovecruft\/status\/1200547871252074496\">this tweet<\/a> is only one of several stories I&#8217;ve heard about Griffith as tech conference sex pest.<\/p>\n<p>I encountered Griffith&#8217;s work in 2007, when he did WikiScanner \u2014 a tool to show which organisations were editing Wikipedia anonymously \u2014 and I was answering the <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/notes\/2007\/08\/15\/i-saw-what-you-did-there\/\">calls from the press<\/a> to Wikipedia about it. I remember Griffith seeming surprised that we actually liked the project.<\/p>\n<p>An <a href=\"https:\/\/news.ycombinator.com\/item?id=21676165\">ex-friend laments<\/a> the Virgil he knew \u2014 &#8220;a few years ago I watched him get sucked into the same vortex as many others I knew back then &#8230; His feeds started featuring race-and-IQ material and such &#8230; not the Virgil I met in the 2000s.&#8221; Griffith is also into the <a href=\"https:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Roko's_basilisk\">LessWrong rationalist<\/a> subculture and <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2OCQXp7\">neoreaction.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>His website is <a href=\"http:\/\/virgil.gr\/\">virgil.gr<\/a>\u00a0\u2014 &#8220;Life is a MMORPG. Grind. Level up. Conquer the world.&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/11\/15\/meme-of-the-day\/\">OK coiner.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Griffith&#8217;s arrest has provoked Amy Castor to start <a href=\"https:\/\/amycastor.com\/2019\/11\/30\/doj-arrests-ethereum-foundation-coder-for-teaching-north-korea-how-to-launder-money-evade-sanctions\/\">blogging again!<\/a> Preston Byrne <a href=\"https:\/\/prestonbyrne.com\/2019\/11\/30\/not-legal-advice-1-december-2019-stablecoins-north-korea-and-guns\/\">considers that<\/a> the Ethereum Foundation really should have known better \u2014 &#8220;Yes, North Korea using your coin will drive up demand for that coin. But it\u2019s <em>North Korea &#8230; <\/em>Anyone who made a lot of money in Ether should understand that just because you made one good investment back in 2014, and haven\u2019t had to do any real work since, doesn\u2019t mean you are a polymath. More likely, you\u2019re a dumbass and you got lucky.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Roger Ver has <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/1200600864710283264\">tweeted<\/a> (<a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20191201152356\/https:\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/1200600864710283264\">archive<\/a>) in Griffith&#8217;s defense \u2014 using a really obviously Photoshopped <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/karbonbased\/status\/1200562983656665088\">parody image<\/a> made by Joshua Davis.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"550\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Sanctions are an act of war. <br \/>People enacting sanctions are waging war.<br \/>People opposing sanctions are opposing war.<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/FreeVirgil?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#FreeVirgil<\/a>  <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/NorthKorea?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#NorthKorea<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/USA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#USA<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/1HuW535OyU\">https:\/\/t.co\/1HuW535OyU<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/wQKWMKnDHu\">pic.twitter.com\/wQKWMKnDHu<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Roger Ver (@rogerkver) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rogerkver\/status\/1200600864710283264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">November 30, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/2019\/12\/01\/virgil-griffith-arrested-over-north-korea-visit-engineer-arrogance-but-on-the-blockchain\/ver-griffith-template\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-20115\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-20115\" src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ver-griffith-template.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"485\" srcset=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ver-griffith-template.png 850w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ver-griffith-template-300x265.png 300w, https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/ver-griffith-template-768x678.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Valiant crypto defenders are already comparing Griffith to Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht, and I fully agree \u2014 both had garbage-tier operational security, that primarily consisted of a nigh-impenetrable shield of narcissism.<\/p>\n<p>Nick Johnson from the Ethereum Foundation <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nicksdjohnson\/status\/1201212127945605122\">tweets<\/a> what he thought the guy was doing \u2014 Virgil Griffith seriously, literally, thought that he could personally, singlehandedly, through the power of his own intellect, bring peace between North and South Korea &#8230; if only those dum-dums in the US Government would let him apply <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nicksdjohnson\/status\/1201212127945605122\">ENOUGH BLOCKCHAIN.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>There&#8217;s engineer arrogance, and then there&#8217;s whatever heady brew Griffith was huffing.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/twitter.com\/karbonbased\/status\/1200579159057215488<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<br><br><div align=\"center\"><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\"><img src=\"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/10\/become_a_patron_button.svg\" alt=\"Become a Patron!\" title=\"Become a Patron!\" width=217 height=51><\/a><br><p style=\"align:center;\" class=\"patreon-badge\"><i>Your subscriptions keep this site going. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.patreon.com\/bePatron?u=8420236\">Sign up today!<\/a><\/i><\/p><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There\u2019s engineer arrogance, and then there\u2019s whatever heady brew Griffith was huffing.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":21146,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[1471,858,1549],"class_list":["post-15118","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-uncategorised","tag-ethereum-foundation","tag-north-korea","tag-virgil-griffith"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/virgil-griffith-north-korea-visa.jpg","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15118","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15118"}],"version-history":[{"count":26,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15118\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21145,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15118\/revisions\/21145"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/21146"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15118"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15118"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/davidgerard.co.uk\/blockchain\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15118"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}