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	<description>arrogant pontification</description>
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		<title>By: Torsten</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10927</link>
		<dc:creator>Torsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: Jay Walsh said so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: Jay Walsh said so.</p>
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		<title>By: Nix</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10926</link>
		<dc:creator>Nix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, you&#039;ve appeared on a British institution: I guess you&#039;re officially famous now ;))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you&#8217;ve appeared on a British institution: I guess you&#8217;re officially famous now ;))</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10925</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Torsten - o rly? Hmm, I&#039;ll have to stop saying that then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Torsten &#8211; o rly? Hmm, I&#8217;ll have to stop saying that then.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Bell</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10923</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard the programme when it was broadcast (like I do every morning ;-)

When Susan Robertson claimed that they had only blocked the &quot;URL that contains the page. the image&quot; (her last line), my first thought was that she had just plainly lied on the Today programme.

When I had a look online, it appears I was right, she did lie, and much more is blocked than just the image itself (which isn&#039;t even effectively blocked).

It always annoys me when people get away with lying on the Today programme, but this time it particularly annoyed me, as there has been no apology for it from the IWF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard the programme when it was broadcast (like I do every morning ;-)</p>
<p>When Susan Robertson claimed that they had only blocked the &#8220;URL that contains the page. the image&#8221; (her last line), my first thought was that she had just plainly lied on the Today programme.</p>
<p>When I had a look online, it appears I was right, she did lie, and much more is blocked than just the image itself (which isn&#8217;t even effectively blocked).</p>
<p>It always annoys me when people get away with lying on the Today programme, but this time it particularly annoyed me, as there has been no apology for it from the IWF.</p>
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		<title>By: Torsten</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10922</link>
		<dc:creator>Torsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little error: The FBI investigations were never confirmed. Nobody is sure if there was an investigation at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little error: The FBI investigations were never confirmed. Nobody is sure if there was an investigation at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Tawker</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10921</link>
		<dc:creator>Tawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 02:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We only block the URL that contains the page&quot; - then block the image and make it 404.

It seems like a major snafu on the part of the IWF, and they&#039;re tyring to save face rather than admitting that they errored that they didn&#039;t expect to get called on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We only block the URL that contains the page&#8221; &#8211; then block the image and make it 404.</p>
<p>It seems like a major snafu on the part of the IWF, and they&#8217;re tyring to save face rather than admitting that they errored that they didn&#8217;t expect to get called on.</p>
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		<title>By: Much ado about &#8230; what? &#171; niq&#8217;s soapbox</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10920</link>
		<dc:creator>Much ado about &#8230; what? &#171; niq&#8217;s soapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 23:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Wikipedia links in honour of their role in this story.  One more link: a transcript posted by the author of this wikipedia entry of this morning&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Wikipedia links in honour of their role in this story.  One more link: a transcript posted by the author of this wikipedia entry of this morning&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: barakta</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10919</link>
		<dc:creator>barakta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the transcript - this deafie appreciated it!  

You came across as well read, having done your research and consistent.  Unlike the IWF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the transcript &#8211; this deafie appreciated it!  </p>
<p>You came across as well read, having done your research and consistent.  Unlike the IWF.</p>
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		<title>By: 95% of British Residential ISPs Censor - but I think I&#8217;m OK &#124; Software Cooperative News</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10917</link>
		<dc:creator>95% of British Residential ISPs Censor - but I think I&#8217;m OK &#124; Software Cooperative News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from the pundit himself at http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/ (and hello again TRS-80! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from the pundit himself at <a href="http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/" rel="nofollow">http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/</a> (and hello again TRS-80! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mint</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10916</link>
		<dc:creator>mint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Funny thing. I used to be a Wikipediaholic but since the birth of my son I hardly get the time any more. I&#039;d just finished feeding him this morning when I turned on the TV and .. bored of BBC Breakfast decided to see what they were talking about on Radio 4 (channel 0104 on Sky). I never normally do that! I joined the programme while Ms Robertson was initially being questioned by Naughtie. Otherwise I wouldn&#039;t have known about this situation. I&#039;m on Be internet and its blocked for me.

It might be worth pointing out in your interviews that the Wikipedia page is viewable on Google&#039;s cache (presumably yahoo etc too), and the Wayback machine, and the image itself is visible at a much higher resolution using a simple Google image search. 

The IWF&#039;s action, even if justified appears to be incompetent, because it hasn&#039;t stopped anyone seeing the image and it has  just given the image more publicity.

You might want to look at the BBC&#039;s technology correspondent,  Rory Cellan-Jones&#039;s blog - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html - I left a comment myself just after 10am.

I&#039;ll be tuning in for Channel 4 News.

Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Funny thing. I used to be a Wikipediaholic but since the birth of my son I hardly get the time any more. I&#8217;d just finished feeding him this morning when I turned on the TV and .. bored of BBC Breakfast decided to see what they were talking about on Radio 4 (channel 0104 on Sky). I never normally do that! I joined the programme while Ms Robertson was initially being questioned by Naughtie. Otherwise I wouldn&#8217;t have known about this situation. I&#8217;m on Be internet and its blocked for me.</p>
<p>It might be worth pointing out in your interviews that the Wikipedia page is viewable on Google&#8217;s cache (presumably yahoo etc too), and the Wayback machine, and the image itself is visible at a much higher resolution using a simple Google image search. </p>
<p>The IWF&#8217;s action, even if justified appears to be incompetent, because it hasn&#8217;t stopped anyone seeing the image and it has  just given the image more publicity.</p>
<p>You might want to look at the BBC&#8217;s technology correspondent,  Rory Cellan-Jones&#8217;s blog &#8211; <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html</a> &#8211; I left a comment myself just after 10am.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be tuning in for Channel 4 News.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10915</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mint - thank you! Fixed.

(Should I confess at this point that I&#039;d barely heard of the Today show and was only told its significance after I&#039;d booked the appearance? Or will they deport me?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mint &#8211; thank you! Fixed.</p>
<p>(Should I confess at this point that I&#8217;d barely heard of the Today show and was only told its significance after I&#8217;d booked the appearance? Or will they deport me?)</p>
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		<title>By: mint</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10914</link>
		<dc:creator>mint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er.. its James Naughtie not Evan Davies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er.. its James Naughtie not Evan Davies</p>
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		<title>By: Wikipedia censurata in UK - Faccio Cose Vedo Gente</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2008/12/08/today-show-transcript/comment-page-1/#comment-10913</link>
		<dc:creator>Wikipedia censurata in UK - Faccio Cose Vedo Gente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 14:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] il comunicato stampa di WMF e le FAQ, e un&#8217;intervista del press contact inglese.  Scritto: Luned&#236;, Dicembre 8th, 2008 alle 15:08 in: wiki, tristezza da Frieda.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] il comunicato stampa di WMF e le FAQ, e un&#8217;intervista del press contact inglese.  Scritto: Luned&igrave;, Dicembre 8th, 2008 alle 15:08 in: wiki, tristezza da Frieda.  [...]</p>
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