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	<title>Comments on: A Manual of Style for humans.</title>
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	<description>arrogant pontification</description>
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		<title>By: Ben Yates</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/05/21/a-manual-of-style-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 04:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or &quot;the Manual&quot; or &quot;the style manual&quot;.  // - end rant about abbreviations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or &#8220;the Manual&#8221; or &#8220;the style manual&#8221;.  // &#8211; end rant about abbreviations</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Yates</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/05/21/a-manual-of-style-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Yates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 04:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can start by calling it the Manual of Style instead of the MOS. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can start by calling it the Manual of Style instead of the MOS. :P</p>
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		<title>By: llywrch</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/05/21/a-manual-of-style-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>llywrch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 16:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two thoughts:

(1) If contributors to Wikipedia tried to follow the inverted pyramid style -- put the most important thing about the subject in the opening paragraph -- I figure that would solve a big chunk of &quot;notability&quot; issues. Well, at least the ones that can be resolved.

Seriously. If a biographical article explains why Ms. So N. So is important (e.g., &quot;inventor of the print screen command&quot;), I will overlook the fact that half of the article is about whether or not Ms. So was a member of some obscure but infamous political group. However, if the biography on the same person starts out telling me where she was born, were she went to school, who she married, etc. &amp; assumes that I know why she is important, I&#039;ll be sorely tempted to nominate this article on AfD. (I encountered an article with this exact same flaw the other week. Instead of nominating on AfD, however, I rewrote it so that the most important fact of the person appeared in the lede. I figured it was a simpler solution dealing with AfD.)

2. I am honestly at a loss to understand why &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twenty-eighth_dynasty_of_Egypt&amp;oldid=129724454&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this version&lt;/a&gt; of this article is better than &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twenty-eighth_dynasty_of_Egypt&amp;oldid=129715525&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one I wrote&lt;/a&gt;. No, my version is not perfect, but I think it is closer to what a user wants. Trying to be a nice guy &amp; avoid an edit war over the matter (said editor, a self-described specialist in &quot;document processing and am highly skilled in research, editing, formatting, etc.&quot;, has done much the same with many of the other articles about the dynasties of ancient Egypt.) I even &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Brina700&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;asked on her/his Talk page&lt;/a&gt;. Still waiting for an answer. Maybe when I have the time I&#039;ll open an RFC on the matter.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two thoughts:</p>
<p>(1) If contributors to Wikipedia tried to follow the inverted pyramid style &#8212; put the most important thing about the subject in the opening paragraph &#8212; I figure that would solve a big chunk of &#8220;notability&#8221; issues. Well, at least the ones that can be resolved.</p>
<p>Seriously. If a biographical article explains why Ms. So N. So is important (e.g., &#8220;inventor of the print screen command&#8221;), I will overlook the fact that half of the article is about whether or not Ms. So was a member of some obscure but infamous political group. However, if the biography on the same person starts out telling me where she was born, were she went to school, who she married, etc. &amp; assumes that I know why she is important, I&#8217;ll be sorely tempted to nominate this article on AfD. (I encountered an article with this exact same flaw the other week. Instead of nominating on AfD, however, I rewrote it so that the most important fact of the person appeared in the lede. I figured it was a simpler solution dealing with AfD.)</p>
<p>2. I am honestly at a loss to understand why <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twenty-eighth_dynasty_of_Egypt&amp;oldid=129724454" rel="nofollow">this version</a> of this article is better than <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Twenty-eighth_dynasty_of_Egypt&amp;oldid=129715525" rel="nofollow">this one I wrote</a>. No, my version is not perfect, but I think it is closer to what a user wants. Trying to be a nice guy &amp; avoid an edit war over the matter (said editor, a self-described specialist in &#8220;document processing and am highly skilled in research, editing, formatting, etc.&#8221;, has done much the same with many of the other articles about the dynasties of ancient Egypt.) I even <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Brina700" rel="nofollow">asked on her/his Talk page</a>. Still waiting for an answer. Maybe when I have the time I&#8217;ll open an RFC on the matter.</p>
<p>Geoff</p>
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		<title>By: David Gerard</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/05/21/a-manual-of-style-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gerard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 00:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. I have it linked on my &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;user page&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. I have it linked on my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Gerard" rel="nofollow">user page</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacoplane</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/05/21/a-manual-of-style-for-humans/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacoplane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 22:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the Economist style guide:

http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jacoplane</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the Economist style guide:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/" rel="nofollow">http://www.economist.com/research/styleGuide/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jacoplane" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jacoplane</a></p>
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