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	<title>Comments on: A modest proposal.</title>
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	<description>arrogant pontification</description>
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		<title>By: Dr Zen</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/04/23/a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 06:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about the grandiose ideas about what to do with the money but whatever floats your boat, I suppose. You&#039;re not planning to hurt anyone, so...

I think the idea&#039;s pretty good. The opposition is mostly nonsensical. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029528.html in particular is bullshit top to bottom. It&#039;s not &quot;nonneutral&quot; to point to Michelin in a Google-ad way. It hurts my head trying to work out what that even means. Anyway, how much ingenuity would it take to *not* have Michelin&#039;s ad on the [[tyres]] page. Florence seems to think that you would be obliged to please the advertisers. I don&#039;t see why you would. Obviously there are governance issues here, but simply assuming that opening up (some restricted portion of) the site to ads means kowtowing to advertisers&#039; every whim is ridiculous.

Whether Wikipedia is anywhere like something I feel should be provided to thirdworld inhabitants is another matter, but hey, missionaries give them bibles, so I suppose that a regurgitation of orthodox liberal promarket pabulum wouldn&#039;t hurt them much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the grandiose ideas about what to do with the money but whatever floats your boat, I suppose. You&#8217;re not planning to hurt anyone, so&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the idea&#8217;s pretty good. The opposition is mostly nonsensical. <a href="http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029528.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-April/029528.html</a> in particular is bullshit top to bottom. It&#8217;s not &#8220;nonneutral&#8221; to point to Michelin in a Google-ad way. It hurts my head trying to work out what that even means. Anyway, how much ingenuity would it take to *not* have Michelin&#8217;s ad on the [[tyres]] page. Florence seems to think that you would be obliged to please the advertisers. I don&#8217;t see why you would. Obviously there are governance issues here, but simply assuming that opening up (some restricted portion of) the site to ads means kowtowing to advertisers&#8217; every whim is ridiculous.</p>
<p>Whether Wikipedia is anywhere like something I feel should be provided to thirdworld inhabitants is another matter, but hey, missionaries give them bibles, so I suppose that a regurgitation of orthodox liberal promarket pabulum wouldn&#8217;t hurt them much.</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriel Pollard</title>
		<link>http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2007/04/23/a-modest-proposal/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Gabriel Pollard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see what&#039;s wrong with advertisements. Most people ignore them anyway, I sure do.

As long as they don&#039;t put those stupid emoticon ads up, I&#039;m fine with Wikipedia carrying ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what&#8217;s wrong with advertisements. Most people ignore them anyway, I sure do.</p>
<p>As long as they don&#8217;t put those stupid emoticon ads up, I&#8217;m fine with Wikipedia carrying ads.</p>
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